Posts by Aussie Oz

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The Governing Body scenario is nearly identical to that in 1977 - no power

by Dogpatch in

the watchtower perposely keeps its leaders "cordoned off" for a reason.

the ones really in charge want to be invisible and have been in control since knorr's day, and still think like him.

the gb want like hell to be visible and powerful.

Aussie Oz

c'mon Randy

spill the beans

name names

Oz

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JW's join the Bogota Colombia book fair trade 2013

by OneDayillBeFree in

link will be below.

there's an email that's been floating around all over the jdub's emails and it somehow got sent to me.

i don't know if there's already been a post on this but i thought i should share.

Aussie Oz

I think the Watchtower has finally realized that using thick as a brick men who are considered 'spiritual' to do stuff is not working.

'Mr spiritual is' out and say hello to worldly marketing and PR firms i reckon.

This and the new website, graphics and slick cartoons and whiteboard doodles are not coming from JWs brains. (well i may be wrong but i doubt it)

Oz

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if one of the current governing body members pulled a ray franz and stepped down/got disfellowshipped then either wrote an expose or something else to go against the watchtower society - would they be forgiven and accepted by the ex-jw community?.

considering they have ray's example behind them i find it more deplorable that they continue in their paths, and personally would find it hard, though not impossible to forgive them - but am interested in everyones opinion....

Aussie Oz

Thet are likely tied up pretty tight by the legal department with gag policies they had to sign...

probably get their arses sued off if they spoke a word, truth or not.

Oz

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new AWAA site up and new name

by Aussie Oz in

not sure if anyone has linked this yet.

go to the old site (lego men and green monsters have done the work it seems) as it redirects you to aawa.co.

http://aawa.co/blog/a-new-name-and-an-apology/.

Aussie Oz

I always wondered why they settled on the acronym they did.

very often, groups will come up with the acronym first then look for words to 'fit', and google images supplied what i think the reason ing may have been (of course seeing that i am in contact with none of them it is only my veiw)

there i found a picture of a magazine called AAWAKE! by them

and there i believe it is...wanting to use this clever play on words on a 'magazine' came before the actual name...and who would blame them, it is a clever use of the WTs own magazine name.

oz

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Lot's of talk on the July Watchtower?

by noonehome in

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friends

so i've heard lots of talk from within about the 'new light' in this watchtower...i'm yet to look at it in any detail.

i'm kind of surprised actually...i first heard about it here before it was even available but close to the time it did come out people started bringing it up - even our co.. some say things like "have you heard about this?

" or "big changes," or "allot of things they said we believed, i didn't realize,"(lots of that) or "brain-overload" or " too much information, but i've never felt more pumped up" or "it's soo exciting to see jehovah's spirit lead his organization..." or "it requires time to sink in, but it's a good feeling!

Aussie Oz

If they GB must all be together to be the faithful slave than it follows they must all be together to be the evil slave...

If one on their own can be the evil slave, then one on their own can be the faithful slave...

which way is it GB?

Oz

oh, i forgot...it is whichever way suits your ends...

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BUILD IT AND THEY WILL COME.....let's rebuild!

by Terry in

okay we've all beat our chest, lamented and throttled the dead horse of aawa.. time to move on!.

i suggest those of us on j-w.n who care about creating something the right way take the trouble to get the framework going.. let's do the grunt work and get the nattering, debates, naming and organizing already pre-approved so that "others" who have the talent, ability, motivation and resources can move in and turn the key!.

because it was not done before.. there is more wisdom on this discussion board in our vast numbers than there could possibly be in a virtual boardroom with 8 people brain-storming.. that isn't an insult--it is just a statistical fact!.

Aussie Oz

''We don't want the JW's to know it is coming''

You have just told them...

Oz

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new AWAA site up and new name

by Aussie Oz in

not sure if anyone has linked this yet.

go to the old site (lego men and green monsters have done the work it seems) as it redirects you to aawa.co.

http://aawa.co/blog/a-new-name-and-an-apology/.

Aussie Oz

Not sure if anyone has linked this yet

go to the old site (lego men and green monsters have done the work it seems) as it redirects you to AAWA.co

http://aawa.co/blog/a-new-name-and-an-apology/

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WAAWAW - Watching AAWA's Website

by UsuaIusern@me in

as on now the awaa website is down for maintenance.

is was meant to be out for 48hrs.

it was down over 72 hrs ago and promises to be up in a further 12. .

Aussie Oz

Now they have a little one eyed monster man watching over the countdown

19 days! not up till May 15 it declares.

Perhaps it will not return at all?

Oz

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BUILD IT AND THEY WILL COME.....let's rebuild!

by Terry in

okay we've all beat our chest, lamented and throttled the dead horse of aawa.. time to move on!.

i suggest those of us on j-w.n who care about creating something the right way take the trouble to get the framework going.. let's do the grunt work and get the nattering, debates, naming and organizing already pre-approved so that "others" who have the talent, ability, motivation and resources can move in and turn the key!.

because it was not done before.. there is more wisdom on this discussion board in our vast numbers than there could possibly be in a virtual boardroom with 8 people brain-storming.. that isn't an insult--it is just a statistical fact!.

Aussie Oz

My own personal thought... NO.

I have long felt the desire to actually DO something real, something meaningful in the 'fight', so i do understand the urge to unite, to collectivly battle the WT. I once thought of doing several things publicly myself. Then i realized i did not have credibility. I was not prepared to put my name and face to my message at that time (nor am i now but for far different reasons than back then) and felt that my journey from the WT was not noble either. (by noble i mean learning TTATT and escaping as opposed to getting DF for adultery then learning TTATT)

As i watched the AAWA fiasco unfold two things became apparent to my mind...1) they had no credibility just as i have none and, 2) just because the desire is there to do something doesn't mean one should.

In my short time here, i have seen all the good websites, read all the good blogs, watched many youtubes and read many accounts of peoples lives. I have been amazed at the battles being waged by a variety of people, all in their own way and methods and the WT having to take notice, of courts of the land/s hearing the things the WT wants kept secret.

I do not see any good in 'organization' of anything in this regard. Why is there a need to unite efforts?

The Watchtower will not be brought to its knees by activists, it will not change because a band of 10,000 former members take action. It is the Watchtower, no different to any other crappy religion/ corporation. What will and is hurting the Watchtower is the public learning about them. What will hurt and is happening is them losing their youth. They dont need us to do that, they are doing that by themselves. For that matter, governments are starting to do a pretty good job of seeing the dirty WT laundry too, thanks to who? Privateers, not some united front.

Do those exiting need support? Yes indeed they do, just as i needed it these past 3 years.

And where did i find it? Right here, on an open forum of thousands of people with thousands of ideas, journeys and personalities. And probably thousands of agenda's as well. And this site is a portal to dozens of other sites that have proved helpful in their chosen endeavors. Do all these websites need to be organized? Do all the different private efforts need to be organized? To be discussed for their own merits before they do something?

Personally i don't think so. As one poster has suggested, school counsellors need to be told about the WT. Yes they do, and mind you, those at my daughters school are under no illusions about the JWs thankyou to me, but does there need to be an organized information drive? Does anything need to be 'organized'? ''Beware of organization''!

Personally i just think more good will be done, is already being done, by many many people without any co-ordination by anyone at all.

This brings my thinking back to credibility and purpose...

Yes, some sort of organization may be credible (AAWA didn't have it to lose in the first place) but purpose? Just because something can be done, does not mean it should be done. What ever gets proposed or done I hope will be done well...

And I am sure something will be organized because there are plenty of people just itching to do something. Anyway Terry, like you say. discuss, and this is just one persons thought, I am not moaning and winging.

I am not sitting here moaning and complaining, and i hope I dont get lumped into the "wingers who do nothing'' camp, because i am neither. I am doing stuff my way in my time and nobody here knows even 1/1oth of what it is. It is not big, it is not public and the watchtower wont lose any sleep over it either, but it will do some good for some. It does not need a group to vett it, nor decide what should be said nor to whom it should be directed.

I am wary, (and surely others are as well) even sceptical of plans to 'bring down the WT', plans to do this or that. Lots of examples on here of people making great noises about the surprising thing they are about to do, how in one year the WT will fall etc etc. Much trumpeting by AAWA and a characture of what it will accomplish

so to those who will, please be careful

Well, thats my 10c worth, for what it is worth.

Oz

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WAAWAW - Watching AAWA's Website

by UsuaIusern@me in

as on now the awaa website is down for maintenance.

is was meant to be out for 48hrs.

it was down over 72 hrs ago and promises to be up in a further 12. .

Aussie Oz

How can they time the 'back up' business so precise...down to the minute even!

oz